Heist stories
- Jun. 30th, 2008 at 9:22 AM
I'm doing research on heist stories and need some good examples and recommendations, either prose or film. Help, please?

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Ones that come to mind:
Oceans 11 (original and Cloonied, along with the sequels) - I've seen bits and pieces.
The Italian Job (again, original and updated)
The Thomas Crown Affair (to continue the theme of remade heist films)
On a more humorous side:
Kelley's Heroes
The Great Muppet Caper
Reverse Heist movie:
Die Hard
In print, I think some of the Saint stories are heist types (though he's more of a con man with a heart of gold.)
for Films
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:H
I did a Google search for "Heist Stories" and Writing and Snacks from June 30, 2008 comes up #2 so I'm guessing there's not a lot of definitive websites on it...
How would you describe the difference between a heist and a caper?
The dictionary def. of "heist" is armed robbery, and I think that's generally followed in film. I can't think of anything in prose! Although I think O'Henry has some similarity in style.
I'll also recommend
Kubrick's The Killing
Topkapi
A Fish Called Wanda
and of course The Pink Panther
Wikipedia has a page of 'em.
Also, both film versions of The Thomas Crown Affair are worth studying (I prefer the original, but the remake has one plot complication that that merits attention).
As for prose, I'm afraid my tastes there run much more into "mystery" than "heist."
Thief
Heat
If you'd like to watch one that's absolutely lunatic, try Treasure of the Four Crowns (Sadly only available on VHS, but it was filmed in 3d!)
The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford is also a heist movie of sorts, though it deconstructs the notion until it's not really recognizable.
I've got DVDs I'd be happy to loan or watch of:
Thief, Heat, the remake of The Thomas Crown Affair, Reservoir Dogs, the original The Italian Job, Jackie Brown, Johnny Handsome and The Wild Bunch. Plus, maybe, others I can't think of.
You're welcome to come over and raid my DVD collection.
As for print, are you looking for real life stuff, or fictional fiction? For nonfiction, Heist!: The $17 Million Loomis Fargo Theft sounds rather interesting, or perhaps The Encyclopedia of Robberies, Heists, and Capers. As for fiction, nothing comes to mind. The mysteries/crime stuff I read tends to involve murderous murder rather than relieving rich folks of their overpriced antiques. Hmm. Wimbledon Green: The Greatest Comic Book Collector in the World sounds interesting, but I cannot speak to how good it actually is.
You're getting lots of good recommendations. You might enjoy Score, with DeNiro. Another movie I've got a soft spot for is Hudson Hawk, though we're really moving well into the realm of ridiculous caper comedy there, not serious heist. The Spanish Prisoner is another Mamet film that deals in heist-like theft and deception, though Heist itself is the way to go for core heisting. Queen Latifah has been in not one but two mediocre heist films, Set It Off and Mad Money. The first is better but neither is much good, unless you are like me drawn to all things Latifan and cannot resist. I do like watching women rob banks, though, so I enjoyed Sugar and Spice. Again, light comedy, but banks get robbed.
My favorite capers in print take place in the Modesty Blaise novels, which are my favorite books in the whole world.
"The Spanish Prisoner" (also Mamet goodness)
"Snatch"
"Catch me if You Can" (awesome since based on a true story)
The BBC Series "Hustle" (Season 1 is just fantastic)
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Nobody's mentioned "Sneakers" with Robert Redford and River Phoenix from 1992, which I quite liked: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105435/
I like its tagline: "We could tell you what it's about. But then, of course, we'd have to kill you."
And as long as I'm chiming in again, Hudson Hawk is a lot of fun, if in a very juvenile way, but it doesn't really offer much you could use elsewhere...
For the elements of manipulation and set-up (and if you don't have anything else to watch that night), you might want to consider the Val Kilmer Saint movie.
I'm a little late to this party, but I do second (or third or whatever) recommend The Great Train Robbery by Michael Crichton. It reads like non-fiction.
I love heist stories!
Heat - Pacino, DeNiro
Kevin Spacey?
The Usual Suspects, Ordinary Decent Criminal
Others :-
Lock, Stock and two Smoking Barrels
TV
I'll second the tv series Hustle, too.
The Hard Word (Guy Pearce)
Some Conan like The Tower of the Elphant.
and the Lankhmar stories at times, too.
The Stainless Steel Rat
Many of the films recommended above are good. But if you're like me, and unfortunately, you are, so you want to see these movies, which I am highly recommending:
The Taking of Pelham 123: Walter Matthau vs. Robert Shaw, Martin Balsam, et al., as they hijack a NY subway train for ransom. Features the use of colors instead of character names (Tarantino copied this flick for Res. Dogs). A little known gem.
Rififi: Yes, it's French AND black and white, but sets the template for all heist films (came before Kubrick's The Killing, which I also highly recommend). Here's a good summary:
Tony Stephanois, just out of prison and angry at his girl Mado's infidelity, decides to join his pals Jo and Mario in an ambitious crime. With Italian safe expert Cesar, they meticulously plan the burglary of a large jewelry establishment. Not a word is spoken as the crime is carried out. And then things begin to go wrong...
I think all of act II is just the heist itself.
Sexy Beast: Ghandi (aka Ben Kingsley) goes freaking balls-out nuts in this tale of a safecracker being forced out of retirement for one last job. This is more character stuff than the other two, but there is a job in the movie.
And if you haven't seen it yet, Tarantino's Jackie Brown is considered by some (like Ken) to be QT's BEST movie (I disagree, but it's more straightforward than his other stuff). Based on Elmore Leonard novel.
If you give me more specifics (time period, drama vs. comedy, action vs. character interaction, etc.), I can come up with some more examples. I love heist films, so let me know your faves. But you have enough to start with.
A heist film on my Netflix queue is The Heist, a made-for-TV movie starring Pierce Brosnan. I'm getting it because my softball team coach is in it (abotu seven scenes, he says) as "short goon." A big burly Italian from Chicago? He's not typecast!
I love heist/caper stories and can't wait to see what you're doing.
A film not mentioned is "Hudson Hawk" A Bruce Willis cult. I loved it, MANY hate it.